Monday, April 03, 2006

Why Liberals and Conservatives just don't get it.

Conservatives love to bash Liberals for their idealism, and Liberals love to bash conservatives for their moralism. Did you know however that neither word means what it originally meant?


Classical Liberalism is based upon the idea that Liberty, both social and economic go hand in hand and are INNATE. It stems from the idea that society is there as a voluntary construct, which serves to enhance the quality of life of those within it.

Classical Conservatism is based upon the idea that radical change is usually a bad idea, that the values and customs of previous generations have worth. The idea that these things have survived the test of time and thus should not be tinkered with unless there is a great need to do so.


Most of the world's societies are based upon the idea of private property.
Yet Both modern liberalism and modern conservatism violate this fundamental ideal.

Liberals violate this ideal by seeking to make the world "fair". They seek to redistribute wealth using the power of the state. Conservatives violate this ideal by intruding upon the private moral decisions of the individual. It always amuses me when liberals talk about those evil gun owners, and how we should do away with all guns (except for the police and army of course).

If you are one of these liberals I have a question:

You equate guns with violence. Yet, guns can be used both in a responsible manner for self defense, and an irresponsible one (murder,theft). My question is this how does this differ from voting?

Voting is the ultimate use of force. It is a mandate which subjects the minority
to the will of the majority. It allows elected officials to wage war, punish dissent, and use your property (tax dollars) as he sees fit.

If you were to have a consistent position, you would either support a ban of universal suffrage AND gun ownership, or admit that if a man is competent to use force at the ballot box, then he is competent to own a gun.

Conservatives amuse me whenever they try to mandate morality, on issues such as abortion. It is a typical conservative position on issues such as welfare that a person should be held responsible for their decisions. This is in my opinion a correct assumption. However they sidestep this position in a major way when it comes to moral issues.

To wit, If you seek to use governmental power to ban abortion outright, you have taken over freedom of choice from an individual, and thus YOU are morally responsible for the outcome. This means YOU as an individual now have a responsibility for raising said child.

If you seek to punish drug use, You are then responsible for providing treatment for those addicted, who now cannot use said substance. If you seek to ban adoption by gay couples, then ethically YOU must step up and adopt an unwanted child yourself.

In short any time you limit the freedom of an individual to make such a moral judgment YOU MUST then take responsibility for YOUR actions.


I started this post with the fact that society is based upon the idea of private property. I will end it with the question that should be the foundation of any political viewpoint. That question is Who owns you?

Your body is physical property just like anything else. Thus there can be three answers:
1. You own yourself.
2. The state or society owns you.
3. No one owns you.

Answer Three makes no sense in a world where everything else is owned by someone/something. Thus the remaining choices are either you own your body, or society does. If your answer is number one, then you consider yourself a free person. If you answer is number two then you are a slave.

Any rational political world view should be based upon answer number one. It follows that ALL men are free, and that any action which limits that freedom is a step towards slavery.

Government in its purest sense is the balance between pure freedom and slavery. It is a necessary evil, and thus the smallest possible government which allows society to work is its optimum size. From this flows a clear set of political ideals. Whenever any law is proposed, or any official runs for election, you must be willing to analyze the law or person, see which freedoms are being curtailed and then trace what responsibilities you take on by voting for it/them.

3 Comments:

Blogger SUZANNE said...

I would say that conservatives believe that the right to life is innate, and our existence begins at conception, therefore banning abortion is respecting the rights of the individual unborn child.

11:40 AM  
Blogger Cincinnatus said...

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1:12 PM  
Blogger Cincinnatus said...

And I would agree with that to some extent. However there is a problem with banning abortion, you are in essence removing freedom and replacing it with your moral code.

E.G. the woman is forced to carry the baby to term, incur medical costs etc. And afterwards there is an unwanted child in the world.

You must take responsibility for your actions (e.g. adopt) otherwise you fail from a moral perspective as well.

Do I like abortion? No. Do I have the right to tell someone else they CAN'T have one? I think not.

I do have the right to say you SHOULD NOT have one, to set up support options/adoption centers for those seeking that option,and I do have the right to refuse to pay for it.(E.G. no federal money)

As much as I sympathize with your belief, in the end are you not falling into the same trap as liberals? E.G. life should be "Fair" so let's use governmental force to make it so?

If you are actively working with organizations to give women an alternative to abortion, then I applaud your effort.

In the end however you must respect free wll. The rest is up to God.

8:35 AM  

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